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This article is interesting giving better input on Lincoln, Grant, and the cotton trade.
"In an ironic twist, General Grant saw and condemned the corruption inherent in the trade, but later he became renown for an administration characterized by his associates' corruption. Lincoln oversaw a system whereby his associates gained even at the possible cost of prolonging the war, but we revere him as "Honest" Abe. Lincoln was at least sensitive to the potential scandal from the cotton trade. On some instances he refused to issue permits because of the impropriety involved. Still, the cotton trade, with its attendant profitability, probably posed too great a temptation for any set of men to avoid some sinful behavior; Lincoln was not surrounded by saints."
Obviously, this article is longer than its relatively unimportant subject warrants; more space is devoted to the subject than I suspect is devoted to it in the leading Grant biographies. Nevertheless, I oppose its deletion. It seems professionally done, and lots of effort has gone into it. It's not as if the internet lacks space and that to include this article precludes a more important one. Let it be. Maurice Magnus (talk) 23:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have only skimmed the article, and when I expressed the above opinion, I had not read the nomination for deletion, which claims that the article is a hagiography. If it is, then I would favor deletion (or revision if it is feasible) for that reason. I opposed deletion only on the grounds that the article is unimportant, which I had assumed was the grounds. Maurice Magnus (talk) 00:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the article has importance, but should be trimmed or rewritten. Maybe focus on Grant while he was in the military, and while he was a General. Did Grant ride horses while President? Things like that. Thanks. Cmguy777 (talk) 21:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Change Grant's military rank to General of the Armies, in December 2022 Congress authorized his rank posthumously to General of the Armies. Which is equivalent to John J. Pershing and George Washington's rank, although Washington outranks everyone. 96.59.81.49 (talk) 00:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think, the law does not promote him (merely authorizes his promotion) there actually has to be a President/Pentagon process that does the promotion, so contact the White House to see when they will get around to doing all the necessary paperwork, his birthday or some other important date, perhaps. (See General of the Armies#Washington appointment and following, and [1]). I wish there were more clarity.Alanscottwalker (talk) 01:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Under President Grant the Federal Income Tax was abolished and gold money was restored - but the article does not properly cover these matters.[edit]
The two most important things that happened under President Grant were the abolition of the Federal Income Tax and the restoration of gold money - the restoration of gold money is covered in the article, but low down (whereas things such as the Civil Service Commission get a leading position in the article) and the abolition of the Federal Income Tax does not seem to be covered at all. The pro Big Government bias of the article is extreme - with such things as the Civil Service Commission, which did not really advance far under President Grant, being covered - but such things as the abolition of the Federal Income Tax basically ignored. 2A02:C7C:E183:AC00:60E1:9BC9:93D1:5E30 (talk) 20:31, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The income tax was not so much abolished, as allowed to expire, without Congress having to pass a bill or Grant having to sign it. There was debate about it, but the heavy lifting was done by Congress, not by Grant. I do not know if it is mentioned in any of the major Grant biographies. If our sources do not treat it as "the most important thing that happened", we cannot treat it as such ourselves. Bruce leverett (talk) 22:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
level-4 vital article is rated FA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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